anti virus/spyware

I’ve just spent a fair amount of time removing copious amounts of spyware and plenty of virus’s from a machine, i’ve used about 6 different pieces of software to remove all the crap, after such an operation what software would you leave on the machine as protection, all these got in behind norton which was the only protection the machine had.
It’s a machine used by teens and I’d take a guess the dubious music downloads are the source.
What do you leave so that you don’t get the machine back in the same state in a months time

Bully

PC Tools Internet Security has proven a good product for me personally. A great firewall plus antivirus, spyware & adware catchers amongst its features…

Well first I block at the router the share ports used for Limewire, and other share systems…then I use Zonealarms, and Avast. I also do a Sybot starter setting just in case…and well then I make sure that they are smarter from word get go. I tell them if I have to reload the computer then the system is my computer after that…they get the point and I have never had an issue so far. A little butt chew goes a long way!

It difficault to say what can be left that will keep it clean, i’m the keeper of a couple of teenager laptops and they both have antivir on them, together with spywareblaster and that seems to do the job fairly well as they have both learn’t that if they click any old rubbish their laptop stops working in the end.

I’ve found malwarebytes to be top notch at pulling them back together when they return broke.

Hopefully there dad will give them the ear bashing they need as it was his bank account they got into as well as one of his daughters through the amount of spyware and virusses on the machine. i’ll leave a couple of the tools on there i think. i’ll make him aware of whose account they were on and what sort of programmes/websites to look out for.

malwarebytes was extremely useful yet didn’t find all of them as was to be expected, hijack this got the last few after using numerous trusted spyware tools and anti virus programmes also
cheers guys

Unfortunately AV software is only as good as the user.

BTW Norton 360 is now one of the least cpu hungry programs out!

I still have never had a bug, ever and a faithful Norton user.
(biggest complaint is that with ever version bump I have to update EXE address in my Download Mgr. and FTP client. A common folder would have made more sense then sticking the EXE in a version numbered folder.)

Yet whatever one chooses, will only work if definition updates are made daily if not more often.
The user confirms that it was scanned.
No such thing as a trusted source!
Just because it came from a friend does not mean it was not infected.
Use the highest protection setting. (annoying at times… but safer)

^ Agree wholeheartedly. One additional AV I use is called Threatfire and it updates several times daily without user intervention and also give an audible warning when doing so.

So far, so safe :thumbsup:

in my experience, norton may not be CPU hungry but it does seem to have a lot of processes and also uses a lot of memory, i’m dealing with low end machines with windows xp and often only 512mb RAM and it seems to kill these machines to slower than a crawl,
i do agree its only as good as the end user in all cases, and definitely that there is no such thing as a trusted source.

[QUOTE=Bullseye;445331]in my experience, norton may not be CPU hungry but it does seem to have a lot of processes and also uses a lot of memory, i’m dealing with low end machines with windows xp and often only 512mb RAM and it seems to kill these machines to slower than a crawl,
i do agree its only as good as the end user in all cases, and definitely that there is no such thing as a trusted source.[/QUOTE]
Would agree with the old Norton’s, but much has changed, so what one use to know is really not the case now.
To show my point, I have several programs running and a full system scan running. Blue indicates what the system is using and yellow being how much of that is Norton’s during the scan. Memory use is so minimal that it is barely registering.

Link: Larger version: http://www.sflorg.com/images/personal/tpr/imtpr100609_01_02.jpg

They truly have made great changes and their products have all totally been rewritten from the ground up. Which is why they have been winning awards left and right for the new products. I use Norton 360, but Norton 2010 is looking very well too.
Heidi

/me wonders if Heidi is on comission :lol:

DT.

That’s all well and good but being burnt by them in the bast puts a lot of people off…

Also what strikes me as odd is Norton have a CPU Usage charter… is that them trying to prove to everyone they use less resources these days ?

I dont remember it being there…

Microsoft Launched their Anti Virus thing recently…

http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/ Ive been installing it on peoples machines as its something Microsoft are supplying… and it’s free…

On my desktops/laptops im still installing avast and avg as theyve always done the job for me :slight_smile:

Yep I understand that dear sheepy.
Been looking at MS new protection, and seems very top notch.
Yet would still use a better firewall then windows. (anything better then nothing though)

I was in attendance at MS yesterday, and got the background on the new AV, A-Malware, A-Spyware from MS.

http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/

I’m yet to try it out, but there was some interesting stuff on WinUpdate. Before WinUpdate runs, there is an in-memory anti malicious software check as part of the update. I’ve used the malicious software removal tool a couple of times in conjunction with other ‘finders’ and found it reasonably good at detections. Despite what is said in the press, MS are part of the VIA (virus information alliance) and all members of that share all signatures and copies of malicious code. However MS has one thing that the others don’t, what used to be known as DrWatson and is now the simple “send error report”. They have logs of malicious code in testing stages as users still hit send error report, so can be already watching the next malicious scam or vunerability exploit as it develops.

Some quite cool stuff really - did you know that all security ‘events’ for MS users are free? The MSRC is there to help, http://www.microsoft.com/security/msrc/whatwedo/responding.aspx

For those of you in shock, I’m passing on what I listened to, not what I thought at the time :wink:

DT.

The WIN Stuff is very good - I have been using on a few test boxes for months and months. It works, and well think they got it right this time. The issue is did MS just paint a target onto the software. All software is different, and each does about the same now a days…that said if in a network use several products never know when one can’t cure the problem… Also Norton did get there act together…still like many time will tell!

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