Making me probably not want to goto Linux because it’s too bloddy hard to set up. :mad:
i wont argue with that, getting linux running the way you want can be a pain, but once you got it set up its alot easyer to maintain than windows
my2p 
Yeah actually setting up W2K these days with all the patches and no slipstream is about a 4 hour ordeal, then you need about another couple of hours to add the spyware, antivirus, decent browser before you are ready to install apps. I consider that to be absolutely unacceptable.
Well I’ll see what Linux is like cos I reckon it’ll be easier at Uni. I’m hoping it’ll be a case of plug in network cable then install Linux and off it goes…
Generally that is the case. Sometimes you might get a nagging issue with sound ouput but mostly the latest releases of Fedora seem to have improved that a bit. Oh yeah the install should take about 15 -20 minutes assuming the hardware is in good shape and of normal performance. That is the install of the OS and all the applications. 1 round of patching and your done. Of course that is dependent on you network speed back to the mirrors.
Edit: Oh yeah you will need a single reboot after the patching to get the latest kernel running, Not about 25 like M$ provides.
Well I’ll keep it in mind I think.
I’ll keep my eye out on Ubuntu so when I get to Uni (hopefully in just under 2 months) I’ll be able to port to linux finally…
but I might not like it… dont you have to compile everything yourself?
Everyone hates windows I like it…I like change and windows forces me to do that every now and agen with a reinstall most proggys work better with windows and most games to…
all these people rant and rave about how bad spyware is with windows, viruses and how its always being hacked…
Dont you think when 90% of the pcs run linux theyll get bloody problems and windows will be less the target ?
hackers and spammers a like want to make a name for themselves and they can only do it with the most popular os…
So I say ye all of you bugger off to unix and linux and ill stick with windows, because the problems will sure as hell follow you eventually and the best thing you can do is confront your problems not run away 
Justmy2p 
Hey Binlala, There ai something you must know. UNIX/LINUX is designed to prevent kernel level stuff from happening when run from the user level. One reason windows has so many problems is that the kernel layer is like a sieve and lets any buffer overflow or nasty installed dll have it’s way with the environment. When Gates finally figures this out I will finally be out of the business.
Oh yeah, why all the reboots with windows, Cause the security model is also broken, in order to make most changes take effect the kernel hooks need to be reloaded, not true on a Real Operating System. LINUX/UNIX can load and unload Modules at will. Gates can’t even uninstall most software without a reboot to unhook the nasties.
Well not everyone will move t linux at all.
Windows ahas such a strangle hold on the market.
well I put it to you this way…I know many people that can only just use windows…if Linux had a better ui, It would be a lot more succesfull
I dont reckon it would.
Most of my mates didn’t even know there was another operating system…
In fact I think 50% of those wouldn’t know what an operating system is!
yes but see all people have friends that know about pc’s…and Ive done many reformat and reinstalls for them and I would have adviced that they use a linux if the ui was better… people dont want to be hit with complications when installing things they just want to install it and change the settings to suit them… Now I understand totally in the server area that Linux is the far greater os to have but when it comes to user you cant beat a good windows install…
Gee, I’ve been in & out with linux instals for a few years, never did get one that went smoothly … probably 'cos I’m an idiot, or couldn’t be bothered to learn the new “command & file” instructions/paths etc :rolleyes:
Once again I’m toying with the idea of a dual boot system … Linux for the general stuff, Windows for my gaming. … trouble is that my ideas take ages to actually get done (similar to Balrogs decorating) :lol:
Thats what I got at the minute but seeing as Linux wont access the web, I’m sticking to Windows for all ATM.
Not sure if if I want to goto linux and try and configure everything from scratch… 
Windows is marketing…period!
Linux is trying but with IBM, Java (SUN) and several others beating each other LINUX will be like OS/2…great product…no applications…yes before you say it LINUX has apps…ten for every one that MS is selling…but supporting these apps is the real issue…who is the point man for the OS? Who do you point the finger at…with MS while you won’t get direct support you have many people that understand and have debugged along the way to fix/work around issues…ever try and find a Wireless Driver for Linux…until just lately it was difficult at best…
Hardware people will not support it until the mass of people go for it…so until the dog can chase it’s tail faster it’s going to be years before Linux happens in mass…now if Apple would release OS10.X to intel based machines…well then MS would have to work much harder to keep what they have been able to market so well.
For now I will keep all OS systems around…heck I make a good living writting, tweaking for about everything…
Amen, nothing more. Very adequate for a game player.
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Well my primary is still LINUX but I have to admit in order to make a living there is a XP and W2K box here.
The problem with “Linux” for me is TOO MUCH CHOICE, and not knowing what they are. Let’s start with the KDE or Gnome thing for desktops. KDE seems to have the best “toys” and is more popular with the distributions, but I find gnome more usable. It’s like comparing Win2k to XP. 2k just does the job with minimal fuss. XP had all the toys to get in the way of anything useful until you turn 99% of it off. What will happen when Longhorn is out I hate to think… Maybe the biggest problem with “Linux” is that to a Windows user, it isn’t Windows It takes time to learn and get used to things. I still haven’t fully got over that hurdle yet. I’m still floating between IE and Firefox.
Depending on where you get your “linux” from, you can get support. But like most things, you get what you pay for. You download a “free” distro, you get a forum or mailing list and that’s usually it. Buy a commercial one and you might get some phone support. Any more and you pay.