Would this work if I used the wire from the router into the uplink port? Assuming I might have to have DCHP turned on? (Was gonna have it turned off on the router and give set IP’s to each PC ie xxx.xxx.x.2, xxxx.xxxx.x.3 etc) as I thought this would allow easier port forwarding etc. Wireless signal also on for the people wanteing to use it (and was going to use MAC address filtering to allow only our PC’s to access the router)
Can anyone offer suggestions? If option two works, I’ll prefer to do that. Means I’ll have to order 3 x 15m cables over one 30m cable mind:rolleyes:
Third option…
My machine (the nix one) has two NIC cards. (though I believe last time I believe nix failed to recognise the onbaord netowrking and thats WHY I bought the second card…) Is it possible to bridge the connections like it is in Windows to the upstairs PC?
Which option would be
A) Easier to setup?
B) Easiest to run? Ie No or little trouble…
I prefer option 1 myself with DHCP disabled and MAC address filtering.
I’d go 1 or 2 depending on how much you care about cables vs wireless. Biased towards 2 for speed and reliability. Only not considering 3 as I’ no *nix guru, but is possible.
Thats good to know and I’ll pass the message on to the guys who’ll probably feel 2 is better as well…Everyone gets wired and is happy and wireless is avliable for whenever one feels like using it…
I run a combination of #1 and #2 here. I tried #3 briefly some time back, but ran into a world of pain with the linux boxes, which at the time, I didn’t have enough knowledge to fix.
So, the system comprises a Belkin 4-port wireless modem router with a couple of D-Link switches and remote wireless cards as necessary. The router and switches are configured as per #2, but also with the wireless link running to 3 other machines too, like #1.
Enabling DHCP in the router, it all sorts itself out no problem
Disabling DHCP, and using MAC address filtering, as per your thoughts should do just as well though.
I’ve got a BB modem on a Windoze PC, so would I be able to get a 'Nix box attached to the PC so that it could use the modem and if so what would I need?
kill the three crossed out lines of comms - and here goes my reasoning. Unlikely but a scenario for you. Massive LAN game going on, in your setup XP1 runs the server. Now XP1 and XP2 have a nice switch sorting the traffic (I assume it’s a switch not a hub). Point 1 - the router is normally a hub not a switch so without going too deep - switch=good, hub=bad
Back to the gaming scenario and here comes point2 - XP1 and XP2 are having a ball, XP3, *NIX and Vista are shouting about rubbish pings - why - because look at it in logic terms, the motorway goes from 3 lane to 1 lane in one step Now for this to have any effect would be unlikely, but as you asked for opinions, well this is how I would run it personally.
(well nearly, I’d probably bin the router and use the nix box as a server)
DT has it right. The Switch should be last point for your systems. The Router is the first defense to Internet. If all your systems play well then the protection is tighter in this method. If you play off two switches like #1 then you could have a storm happen say if a socket would go bad…it would take down the router, and you would be wondering who did what. This way the switch would be the checking point first if the Internet was still working.
Also you could then string a Wireless AP to it and have it outside the Switch, and know one would be seeing all that Porn on those boxes…
Cheers DT. Looking at it that way it’ll also majorly cut down on the cabling around the house.
1 wire to the first floor, a couple of wire branch off to PC’s and two wires to upstairs PC’s.
Though based on that I’ll go on Network 5 (Vista machine will still plug into router mainly…just to save the extra cable going upstairs…)
Still undecided on DHCP being disabled…would be easier for port forwarding but I’m not sure with *nix yet how to change it to starting up and using a fixed IP…(easy enough in XP and Vista mind…)
depends on your distro, but they all rely on a very easy to work out and write. In /etc/network/interfaces you’ll find a eth0.conf or something along those lines, you then edit that with your details you want for instance (from memory could be horribly wrong)
Dont quote me as my Netowrking is limitied but I would guess you would connect the nix book to the network port (the one that allows the RJ45) with a crossover cable and plug the other end into the nix machine.
You’d then need to bridge the internet connection to the LAN using a network bridge. (fairly easy to setup IIRC in Windows) and then off you go…that should be fine. When creating the bridge, allow internet connection sharing…
Really need to get the new Ubuntu installed so I can see what I need to do:rolleyes:
It’s close but not quite there. A “server” whether Windows or *nix would use the BB modem and then share it to clients using DHCP (or static) from a second network card. If you look at the diskless guide for ltsp it basically has that setup, one server, many machines connected to the server and sharing the internet connection. I can plug in any machine to my diskless and if it doesn’t recognise the specific hardware address there is a couple of lines in the DHCP config that tell it to allocate a DHCP address. There are some very VERY dedicated firewall and server distributions of *nix for being the machine that shares the connection, the most common one people have heard of is Smoothwall.