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[QUOTE=Peige;447626]With all these impersonal methods of communication they can remove the art of speaking face to face.

I’ve witnessed it in my own daughter, bantering away on msn and facebook, talking about everything you can imagine and some things I didn’t. Yet face to face she would be silent with those same friends, its only now that she has started collage that facebook has turned into a site where they arrange to meet rather than live their life, effectively she has only just learn’t the art of being social face to face.

As somebody that has been along for the ride from notes passed in class to phone calls, CB radio, emails, text, forums, personal web pages… I can however see the value of it, I am not converted to it and it won’t get details of my life but I can see that it has a use, how is it so different to this forum for example, want a tpr meet up and it gets put up on here, how does that differ from putting it on facebook ? surely its just a version for the none nerds amongst us ?

Nothing will be better than meeting face to face but being stubborn about how that occurs isn’t proving anything . Telephone, better than text ? should I toss my mobile in the bin and only accept land line phone calls, should I ignore my forum account and only read personal letters ?

I would put a counter argument that facebook, twitter, whatever should be seen them for what they should be, newer methods of keeping proper friends in contact and not written off because you don’t want to use them.
Hids and I will meet for a beer in January because she told me she is in sussex then through facebook, seems that its not so bad to me :hat:

And yes, I would be happier to meet in person and have this discussion over a beer :lol:[/QUOTE]

You’ll doubtless be surprised that I agree with you. You don’t seriously think I’m a techo-Luddite? Me? I’m a sucker for all things new as most know. I love my mobile, use texts. I have a digital camera. An ipod. I’m not dead set against the new.

My point is: Hids could have texted, rung or PM’d you and sorted it that way, she knows where you live. She only knows that because you have met face to face. What did Facebook bring to the party which was special, unique, worthwhile? Nothing IMHO. Is Facebook like a forum? No, I don’t think it is, forums generally contain people who met because of some common interest or need, Facebook tries to be your online social life manager. I think there’s a difference,

Of course some of these sites will have a use for some people in some circumstances but the danger is that they replace real life for many others, as you said yourself. Teenagers need little encouragement to communicate in grunts as it is, teenagers on Facebook? I was looking over the shoulder of one of my ex-waitresses the other day, she was on Facebook. Listed there as a “friend” was a barmaid of mine who I know for a fact she detests. Friends? No, clearly not. So who’s fooling who? And again, I return to, what is the point? Scrabble? The younger couple who run the pub over the road play scrabble against each other on Facebook, in the same house, in the same room, on two laptops…why oh why? Virtual cooking? I just don’t see it. Its well known I’m not a fan, but I’m not that unreasonable that I won’t listen to argument. It’s just nobody can give me a clear reason why they use Facebook. So I don’t understand.

Put me down as an old misery if you like, I don’t mind. The only reason Hids can say “Don’t hold back Martin” is that she has met me in real life, otherwise I would just be “mojo”. And in reality, just like Facebook, that could be a lie, I could be called Brenda and have eleven kids, nobody would know.

I don’t understand. Simple as.:sigh:

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going back to Twitter and the search term of “escort girls”, it would seem Twitter are completely useless. The official response I’ve had of the site being used to simply advertise prostitution is “we don’t mediate content”. I bet if kiddie porn was put on the site they would …

Oh dear oh dear, where to start. Now Facebook may show it’s real power. Look at the RageAgainstTheMachine effort for number1. That started on Facebook I believe. The power of facebook, it’s a petition starter and bandwagon creator, coupled with online inboxes that are not private.

My five-a-side football was cancelled last night, I received a text, an email and I presume a message from the facebook group. That kinda showed how things have moved, two seasons ago when I was managing a team, that would have been an hour ringing round and asking one to ring another etc etc. We would have probably used the pitch to play a friendly.

What train station is reasonably central to us all for an invasion of the nearest pub to carry this one on for hours and hours over a beer :cheers:

DT.

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a little more “ammunition” in the news today, showing and proving a lot of the points made above.

It took five days before a friend pointed out that the twitter feed was advertising sexy knickers :lol:

Another day, another site or account comprimised from using the standard, easily attacked username/email+password login :sigh:

DT.

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[QUOTE=DoubleTop;447658]

What train station is reasonably central to us all for an invasion of the nearest pub to carry this one on for hours and hours over a beer :cheers:

DT.[/QUOTE]

Crewe :whistle:

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Geography never was your strongpoint … :Poke:

DT.

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We could all meet on BeBook, have a virtual beer, a few hands of Scrabble, make some food in the kitchen, oh what fun that would be :boggle: I mean who wants to meet face to face anymore in this day and age. Rounds will be cheaper as well…but who do you complain to about a bad pint?

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Now you’re just being Mr Scrooge :Poke: :stuck_out_tongue:

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post train times/car times to Crewe :slight_smile:

Mines 2hr45m on the train.

DT.

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[QUOTE=DoubleTop;447663]Geography never was your strongpoint … :Poke:

DT.[/QUOTE]

You said somewhere central to everyone and Crewe is…we do have quite a few Scottish members and Welsh as well as English you know :stuck_out_tongue:

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:moon: :moon:

yep, we all live on the west side of the country as well … :Poke:

DT.

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Nottingham’s fairly central - after all it is called the Midlands for a reason :stuck_out_tongue:

2h 10m train from Loughborough

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3 hours to nottingham and crewe !

You’ll doubtless be surprised that I agree with you. You don’t seriously think I’m a techo-Luddite? Me? I’m a sucker for all things new as most know. I love my mobile, use texts. I have a digital camera. An ipod. I’m not dead set against the new.

My point is: Hids could have texted, rung or PM’d you and sorted it that way, she knows where you live. She only knows that because you have met face to face. What did Facebook bring to the party which was special, unique, worthwhile? Nothing IMHO. Is Facebook like a forum? No, I don’t think it is, forums generally contain people who met because of some common interest or need, Facebook tries to be your online social life manager. I think there’s a difference,

Of course some of these sites will have a use for some people in some circumstances but the danger is that they replace real life for many others, as you said yourself. Teenagers need little encouragement to communicate in grunts as it is, teenagers on Facebook? I was looking over the shoulder of one of my ex-waitresses the other day, she was on Facebook. Listed there as a “friend” was a barmaid of mine who I know for a fact she detests. Friends? No, clearly not. So who’s fooling who? And again, I return to, what is the point? Scrabble? The younger couple who run the pub over the road play scrabble against each other on Facebook, in the same house, in the same room, on two laptops…why oh why? Virtual cooking? I just don’t see it. Its well known I’m not a fan, but I’m not that unreasonable that I won’t listen to argument. It’s just nobody can give me a clear reason why they use Facebook. So I don’t understand.

Facebook is useful to keep in contact with friends and thats the key word here… I don’t get why or how someone can have 200 odd “friends” on facebook, when they clearly are not.
Its place seems best when your trying to arrange a get together or spread news quickly amongst a group, phoning, texting, PM’s simply doesn’t work as well if your trying to arrange a date for a get together and the input of more than one person.
Where it doesn’t work is trying to make friends, I just don’t see that it can do that, I agree with your point about the forum bring like minded people together and your right, it does effectively help you make friends.

But with reference to games played within it, scrabble isn’t a good example, surely better to clear a table and play it in a pub if thats your thing, but some others on there, not much different to two people playing UT against each other in the same room, but with the added bonus of that interactivity you get when you pull off something and can hear your opponent reeling.

I’m not converted to it, I have joined it because it has a use for me but i’m not going to add a zillion friends or sit on it all night waiting for a status update.
It is a “social networking site” that should be able to keep friends in touch, what it is not is a friend making site. The suits behind it are trying to turn it into something more than it is, because thats what the accountants behind them want it to be.

But returning to your valid point about teenagers and their communication skills, your spot on, short of yanking the plug out of the internet i’m not sure what can change that. We have changed from a sociaty where as kids we basically ran free till tea time each day to one where your kids barely go out without you, a group of teenagers is seen as a something to be afraid of… what are they supposed to do to jump from these restrictions that we place on them ? Simply it seems, they sit in there bedrooms having an online social life rather than a real one, they only seem to break free when they go to collage or uni and are aloud into that great social haven, the pub. :sigh:

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Here’s an example of a bad reason for using Twatter.
mum_tweeted_as_medics_battled_to_save_son

Bad…

The even scarier thing is the comments made by some people defending her. What’s up with them? :nono:

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[QUOTE=drezha;447683]Nottingham’s fairly central - after all it is called the Midlands for a reason :stuck_out_tongue:

2h 10m train from Loughborough[/QUOTE]

:Offtopic:
Never in a month of sundays does it take that long from there, or is that the cheapest train ticket via liverpool with 3 changes?

was there not a post not long ago relating to the next meet but we couldn’t make december work? maybe this thread will need splitting soon, the joy off TPR off topic threads

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Firstly, sorry for posting on topic. I will try to do better in future.

Twitter and blogs are both easy-to-use authoring aids which differ in the length of expected entries. Blogs a page or two, twitter a sentence or two. Thus an author must (should) spend more time preparing a blog than a twit. This means that twitter posts can be more frequent than blog posts.

I have just created a twitter account so I can follow the LHC twits, after I realised that they were creating twitter updates more frequently than news entries on LHC@home. I think there are plenty of valuable uses for a service which provides the ability to broadcast short messages.

I’m not too worried about the occasional misuse of twitter accounts – I assume if it gets bad enough to impact other uses they will take action. Most such sites have their share of young ladies wanting something which of course would eventually turn out to be money. I get occasional random contact requests on skype and every time if I log on to an irc server, but it has never really inconvenienced me.

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quick everyone, logon to twitter to report that RATM have done it!!!

DT.

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[QUOTE=DoubleTop;447663]Geography never was your strongpoint … :Poke:

DT.[/QUOTE]

hehe Omaha!

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New Years eve.

Edinburgh.

'nuff said :wink:

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I was sent this link today, made me chuckle.

DT.

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:lol: Good one that. :smiley: