just an interesting Discussion at our Forum
when 2 Space Travel are gone with 1 x Light speed in different Directions , they are going endlessnes
then they are going about 600000km/s
but it is said that nothing is faster than Light Speed, but the Room between the 2 Space Travel is going to 2 x Light Speed.
an interesting Discussion.
regards
Sir Ulli
It would seem to me that it is the measurement that is at the base of the debate.
If you have infinite apples in a field, then you can not have 2x infinity and therefore you can not have 2 fields.
If the fastest we can travel, in a continuous line is at the speed of light, then you cannot travel 2x speed of light.
BUT, if you could move from one point to another without following a continuous line, like using stepping stones across a river, to cut a corner, then it could be said that it would have taken 2x speed of light to get there the normal way around and so your relative speed must have been >speed of light.
Does that make sense to anybody else but me?
Originally posted by Sir Ulli
[B]light Speedsregards
Sir Ulli [/B]
Thank you Sir Ulli,
I will have to read that properly tomorrow as my brain died about half way through but my eyes kept on seeing the words:confused: 
:rolleyes:
But basically, the diffence is a change in time to perceive a speed as opposed to a single reference of time resulting in enhanced speed.
when you know Star Trek 4, Spok is the Answer, …
but only in Cinema…
regards
Sir Ulli
Likewise I shall have to read that at some point that isn’t 8:20 am 
I do remember an very convincing hypothesis from “The Elegant Universe” which suggested that all bodies are moving at light speed thought the basic 4 dimensions… namely 3 of space and 1 of time. The faster we move through space the more of our velocity through time is diverted, therefore time for us slows down. So measuring a speed in m/s when the time part is slowing…
/gets coat
ps: I can go into more detail if req’d 
Hmmm light speed … the best measurement I can get is 0.3 of a second …
click light on
click light off
/ grabs coat, heads for door, trips over the dog 'cos the light is off …
i found some interesting Stuff
When high velocity particles travel faster than the speed of light in a medium they create a blue flash. This is called Cerenkov Radiation, why does this happen and why is it blue?
How to Build a Time Machine
This site uses animations to explain the twin paradox of special relativity.
regards
Sir Ulli
Originally posted by Sir Ulli
[B]i found some interesting Stuffregards
Sir Ulli [/B]
Indeed, these time-warping effects have to be taken into account in the Global Positioning System. If they weren’t, sailors, taxi drivers and cruise missiles could find themselves many kilometers off course.
I don’t know about sailors or cruise missiles but that certainly fits with the taxi drivers I know:eek:
Thanks Sir Ulli, more interesting stuff to read:thumbsup:
i think Scully can answer this one. her thesis on koining the FBI was ‘Eisnteins Twin Paradox - a new theory’. Mulda?
can’t remember the site but there was talk ages ago about
light passing through a gas and emerging the other side before
it seemed to have entered 
Nearest I can find is this…
http://plus.maths.org/issue12/news/fasterThanLight/
and…
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00093487-DB4B-1C73-9B81809EC588EF21
i found again some interesting links
In 1935 a famous paper was written about these so-called “entangled states” and the ‘EPR experiment’, written by
Einstein, Albert
Podolsky, Boris
Rosen, Nathan
as PDF DOC
Quantum
entangled states and reduction of the wave packet
but my Mathematics dont underastand all
and something here
The following is a shortened and condensed summary of Ron Pearson’s new theory on the creation of the Universe. It has been written as an aid to understanding and not as a full and exact scientific explanation and readers wanting such should go on to read Ron’s own work. Details of this can be found in the literature list at the end.
New
Theory on the Creation of the Universe
and something about Black holes
Black hole recipe: Slow light, swirl atoms
PRINCETON, N.J.–First things first: Einstein has not left the building.
Despite some recent virtuosic experiments with pulses of light widely reported to far exceed the speed of light, physicists still agree that no object or information has been made to travel superluminally. Cause-and-effect is preserved. But the strange intricacies of light are requiring scientists to examine closely the nature of the ultimate speed limit and, with it, what a pulse of light really is.
Researchers make pulses that travel faster than light–sort of
only for who has interest at this, i learned a lot by looking at all the Threads.
regards
Sir Ulli
If you were to travel away from a wall clock at the speed of light the image of the hand moving would never reach you, time would appear to stand still.
so if the clock we’re travelling at light speed c, and you were travelling at c, but in opposites directions, the clock would appear to be going backwards?
Originally posted by efaill
so if the clock we’re travelling at light speed c, and you were travelling at c, but in opposites directions, the clock would appear to be going backwards?
Hmmm interesting question but no, the image would never jhave reached you to start with and would simply cease to exist.
good point. Much like super/hypersonics in that respect.
Wolram tries hard to follow all this, but sadly his brain is still operating at the speed of a unicycle with a wheel missing 
when the headache eventually fades he returns to hunting mushrooms with his water pistol
…not bad for a bloke with the same birthday as Einstein (apparently)
Originally posted by wolram
Wolram tries hard to follow all this, but sadly his brain is still operating at the speed of a unicycle with a wheel missingwhen the headache eventually fades he returns to hunting mushrooms with his water pistol
/cowboy picks up his water pistols and joins wolram
I love reading this stuff but too much makes my head hurt.
Cowboy
just found this interesting article
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/warp.htm
and here also
http://www.discover.com/current_issue/index.html
btw just looking a BBC Docu
The Death star,
also something interesting about Black holes.
regards
Sir Ulli
OK so how’s the wave particle duality work then?
//get’s coat and runs
